Welcome to Episode 165 of Speculate! The Podcast for Writers, Readers and Fans. In this episode we continue our triptych of shows on the work of Daniel Jose Older, looking at his acclaimed YA novel Shadowshaper as we speak with the author himself. We chat about music, Brooklyn, cultural representation, characters of color, and many other topics in a really fascinating discussion with Daniel, and we hope you enjoy it as much as we did! If you like what you hear, don’t forget to check back next week for our final show of the triptych as we look at some of the writing techniques used in the novel–and if you’d like access to that show, please head to our Patreon page and support us at the $5 or higher level. Thanks for supporting us here and via our Patreon, and thanks as always for listening to and spreading the word about the show!