Welcome to Episode 173 of Speculate! The Podcast for Writers, Readers and Fans. In this episode, we venture into the world of healthcare and politics–and yes, they’re related!–as they relate to the speculative fiction community, as we discuss what happens next with authors Gwenda Bond and Kameron Hurley. Both have talked extensively, on and offline, about these issues, and during our conversation we cover a lot of ground, drawing upon Kameron’s history of advocacy relating to medical rights and Gwenda’s extensive government experience in healthcare and policy. Surprisingly, the conversation is much more upbeat than you might expect, and a lot of real suggestions for coping with current circumstances and working to create change come out of this discussion. If you like what you hear, remember to check back soon for our next show, and please head to our Patreon page and support us at the $5 or higher level to get access to even more content. Thanks for supporting us here and via our Patreon, and thanks as always for listening to and spreading the word about the show!